Grace O'Connor

Yeah.

I didn't, so I still don't know James.

So young and I think having Jordan there at that age, I remember at mine and James' wedding, us looking at photos from when they were younger and we were looking at little Jordan, you know, photo of him and his mam and we were saying, can you imagine?

We were both saying, can you imagine what it must have been like for him?

But dad was there, but Shelley, Michelle, one of the sisters, she reared Jordan in.

So as long as I know James from the day I know him, Shelley's the mammy of the family.

She just is.

And I knew that before I even met her.

She had decided she was going to do this and I wasn't there through it.

But from the story, she really filled, you know, went into Kathleen's shoes, you know, and kind of took on that role.

That massively impacted James's life.

Of course, it would have all of them.

And then a couple of years on, James struggled with addiction throughout his life.

They're a super close family, you know, and I just met one of James's sisters before I came here.

And I'm thinking, you know, how much am I going to share?

And I'm very conscious this is James's story, not mine to tell.

And she really feels like they're all so proud of how he changed his life.

And it's hard for me.

I never seen that other side of James.

Oh, my God.