Graham Hancock

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The issue of erosion, it's not so much erosion, it's the deposition of sediment. It's the deposition of sediment. Over time. Over time. And what we're looking at with these Easter Island heads, I was fortunate to know, there we are. I was just going to say, I was fortunate to know Thor Hardal, and there he is in the blue safari suit standing at the shoulder of the Easter Island Moai.
And you can see that the dark bit is the bit that was above ground And then they dig down and they find that it goes down 30 feet underground this enormous thing and this is not as a result of of being exposed by erosion. This had to be excavated in order to reveal it.
And the issue is, on this tiny island, if this thing is only 700 years old, which is something that archaeologists often say, 700 or 1,000 years old, if it's only that old, how do you get 30 feet of sedimentation on this tiny island in just 700 years? It looks like a much longer period that would be required to create that depth of sedimentation.
Well, this is where I'd like to defer to the work of Dr. Robert Shock who's a brilliant expert in this field. We invited Robert Shock to join us in season two of Ancient Apocalypse but he – I think that's unfortunate because I think Robert Shock has done breakthrough work on Easter Island. And it's Robert Shock who first realized that this is a problem.
This deep burial of these statues by natural sedimentation is a problem. It's a chronological problem that speaks to these statues being much older than we imagine they are.
I've always regarded Robert as a good friend, but he and I have not spoken since 2015. On purpose? Well, I would love to speak to Robert. Does he try not to talk to you? And I take every opportunity to express my admiration for him. And Robert has been very brave. He is a credentialed geologist, and he has stuck his neck out on the Sphinx.
And a lot of people want to cut his head off for doing that. And I appreciate his courage, and I appreciate his openness of mind and his willingness to get into this. But I don't know. Somewhere between... 2013, we were still good friends. We traveled to Gunung Padang together in 2013.
No, I don't know why it is. Maybe I did something that offended him. Sometimes I can be very unpleasant.
Get out of here. Well, we're all nice guys, but we all have a dark side. And sometimes I am very harsh and very unpleasant. I don't think I was with Robert. I don't understand what the problem is between us. He and I disagree over the cause of the Younger Dryas cataclysm.
Robert Shock believes that it was a massive solar outburst that brought this catastrophe about, and he focuses on the end of the Younger Dryas 11,600 years ago. I'm more of the view that the comet research group is right and that we're looking at the effect of largely of airbursts of large cometary fragments right across the surface of the Earth, which caused the Younger Dryas.
No, I don't see why they're mutually exclusive. I don't see why one has to write off the other. What we both agree on is that the Younger Dryas, between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago, was an extraordinary global cataclysm, which changed everything, which extinguished all the megafauna of the Ice Age. We agree on that, and we agree that it likely wiped out a lost civilization of the Ice Age as well.
We disagree on the mechanism, but I don't see why we shouldn't be friends for that. So, Robert, if you're listening... If you're listening, please, let's work together because we have many common enemies. And this is one of the problems with the alternative side is that there's a lot of infighting in the alternative side and everybody's scrambling for their own bit of turf.
Whereas the archaeological side, they're very unified in terms of attacking what they call pseudo-archaeology. They work as a team and that teamwork makes them very efficient. We're very inefficient on the alternative side.
I'm not sure. I think Robert is open to doing television. The fact is we invited him to come to Israel and to give his point of view and he declined. And therefore he must have a strong reason to do that.
Thousands of years. Thousands of years.
Remember, it's a small island. It's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It's 2,000 miles from Tahiti and 2,000 miles from the coast of Peru. It just seems strange that there's so many of those statues in this one area, too.
Well, it's what it calls itself, Tepitu or Tehenua, the navel of the earth. It calls itself the navel of the earth. And it's not the only place. Delphi in Greece calls itself the navel of the earth. Heliopolis in Egypt close to Giza was a navel of the earth. Angkor Wat in Cambodia is a navel of the earth. Gobekli Tepe means... The naval, the hill of the naval.
This notion of navels of the earth, I think it's connected to an ancient geodetic survey of the earth, that there were certain anchor points that lines of longitude were drawn from by a civilization that didn't have our tech, didn't have our iPhones, but did explore the world. did sail the oceans.
And I'm not surprised that we haven't found their ships since we haven't found the ships for those who sailed to Australia or for those who sailed to Cyprus either. But it had abilities that we do not attribute to period of that time. And those abilities included the ability to calculate longitude, something that our civilization didn't crack until the 18th century.
And I suggest it's only a theory that these multiple navels of the earth around the world were fixed points on the earth where longitude connections were made. They were established places. So I do not think it's an accident. that Angkor Wat is 72 degrees of longitude east of Giza.
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