Graham Platner

It's disgusting.

And it also is, I think for me, I mean, one of the reasons I want to go to the Senate specifically is we need a Senate who's really going to take their power back when it comes to war making.

I mean, the Constitution is pretty clear.

I mean, this is, dude, this is, I mean, this is, and by the way, you want to talk about like one of those reasons why working people or regular people don't, it's also because of this stuff.

Because there is this connection like we just should be the anti-war party.

I mean, the fact that there is an element of the right that this kind of isolationist version of it that actually gets to almost take on the mantle of being, that only works when we have elements of the Democratic Party that are like willing to go along with this stuff.

We shouldn't be fighting wars.

I'm sorry.

We should not be sending young American men and women off to kill a bunch of people in foreign countries.

I mean, for essentially any reason.

It is hard for me to see any intervention post-World War II that in the long run really worked out well.

Korea, maybe you can make the argument.

Everything else, though.

And it is a...

I'm not a pacifist, but at this point, I've become essentially anti-war when it comes to the nation writ large and how we use our power internationally.

Because every time we do this, when you go back and look at it, in hindsight, it's pretty much always a bad idea.

But more importantly for me, there's a human cost to this stuff.

That you've seen?

Yeah.

That you've felt?