Graham Platner

I mean, the fact that there is an element of the right that this kind of isolationist version of it that actually gets to almost take on the mantle of being, that only works when we have elements of the Democratic Party that are like willing to go along with this stuff.

We shouldn't be fighting wars.

I'm sorry.

We should not be sending young American men and women off to kill a bunch of people in foreign countries.

I mean, for essentially any reason.

It is hard for me to see any intervention post-World War II that in the long run really worked out well.

Korea, maybe you can make the argument.

Everything else, though.

And it is a...

I'm not a pacifist, but at this point, I've become essentially anti-war when it comes to the nation writ large and how we use our power internationally.

Because every time we do this, when you go back and look at it, in hindsight, it's pretty much always a bad idea.

But more importantly for me, there's a human cost to this stuff.

That you've seen?

Yeah.

That you've felt?

I know what it looks like when American-made high explosive interacts with children.

I've touched it.

It's a horrifying thing.

I know what it feels like to have...

friends die and to have a lot of other friends of mine and myself included have to deal with the trauma of that for years afterwards.