Graham Platner

We need more people in positions of power, frankly, who either understand it because they've experienced it or who are just kind of ideologically opposed and don't want us to do this kind of stuff.

And it's not just about the moral component.

It's about the fact that this stuff, it doesn't make us safer.

It doesn't make the world safer.

It tends to, to quote a famous Marine who came long before me, war is a racket.

And there are people that make an immense amount of money off of it.

And when you go look at a lot of the wars we fought, frankly, certainly in my lifetime, at the end of the day, that's usually what happens.

And I do not see a war with Iran falling into a different category.

In fact, it seems to be almost like, I mean, I said this about Venezuela as well.

It's like Iraq, but dumber.

But we need people in places of political power who are really willing to call it exactly for what it is and to stand up against it.

I mean, this can't happen.

um last question hopefully a lighter note you recently took a campaign hiatus to travel to norway with your wife yes uh to try ivf speaking of healthcare yeah exactly in the hopes of having your first child uh can you talk to me about that decision and why norway yeah so we've been uh amy and i have been dealing with infertility for back about two and a half years now um and went through all the previous steps eventually got to the point where like all right ivf is the last thing and uh

because of, I mean, the VA doesn't cover it if it's not like clearly my problem and Amy's not a vet, so it doesn't cover her.

It's kind of weird, which needs to be changed by the way, because to have children, you do need both people, but whatever, it's a whole other thing.

I'm gonna work on that when I get to the Senate.

Her insurance didn't cover it.

The VA stuff didn't cover it.

And so we started to look into doing it in the United States.

And the cost is astronomical.