Graham Platner

But we need people in places of political power who are really willing to call it exactly for what it is and to stand up against it.

I mean, this can't happen.

um last question hopefully a lighter note you recently took a campaign hiatus to travel to norway with your wife yes uh to try ivf speaking of healthcare yeah exactly in the hopes of having your first child uh can you talk to me about that decision and why norway yeah so we've been uh amy and i have been dealing with infertility for back about two and a half years now um and went through all the previous steps eventually got to the point where like all right ivf is the last thing and uh

because of, I mean, the VA doesn't cover it if it's not like clearly my problem and Amy's not a vet, so it doesn't cover her.

It's kind of weird, which needs to be changed by the way, because to have children, you do need both people, but whatever, it's a whole other thing.

I'm gonna work on that when I get to the Senate.

Her insurance didn't cover it.

The VA stuff didn't cover it.

And so we started to look into doing it in the United States.

And the cost is astronomical.

And in New England, there's only one clinic.

And their only clinic is in Portland, Maine, which is three hours away from where we live.

So we'd have to be traveling anyways.

We started to look into it.

We saw how expensive it was, but we really weren't sure what else to do.

And then a friend of Amy's had either a relative or someone who had gone to Norway.

And they're like, you know, in Norway, it's really cheap and everybody's really nice and it's a wonderful personal experience.

And so Amy reached out to a clinic in Norway, like on a Monday, and we had like an hour long intake exam with the surgeon on Thursday.

And the moment I knew we were going to go is at the end of an hour-long intake exam.

I was like, okay, how much do we owe you guys?