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Grant Harvey

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The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So when you put that in the context of what you just said, it kind of makes you go, whoa, and take a step back.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

One of the ideas in the essay that you wrote was making sure that it always identifies itself as an AI.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So never allowing it to pretend to be human, for example, which I think makes a lot of sense.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

I talked to some of the people at IBM and they very much look at AI as just another tool and not in the kind of like AGI, feel the AGI of open AI.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So that's kind of interesting.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

It's a good mantra, good mission.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

But labeling it is really good.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

But is there a tension between the user demand and user engagement that wants more human-like experiences and the imperative that you have to avoid that sort of mimicry?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Oh, yeah, that's so wild.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

I was thinking about that with the three laws of robotics, and there was an essay I read, I don't even remember, a couple months ago now, about how we should add a fourth one, which is an AI may never deceive a human.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

So, you know, there's like, AI cannot harm a human, AI cannot...

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

You know, there's like two or three other ones.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

But but the the fourth one that wasn't added that we think we should add is it should not deceive humans.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

And so part of that would be like, is there a way to almost hard code that like ability to deceive, like to to to make sure that they can't one misrepresent themselves as conscious when they're not.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

And number two, deceive humans.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Is that even possible?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

I agree.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Mustafa Suleyman on Seemingly Conscious AI and Microsoft's Next Chapter

Satya talks about that a lot in terms of like, who is liable when these things go out and make them, you know, a legal error or whatever, like who, who, who's responsible for the AI when they go out in the world.