Grant Harvey

You've worn in your essay, you've worn about granting rights, welfare or citizenship to AI.

There's like, that's where this goes with the model welfare model.

Of it all.

So what is there?

I know you mentioned we shouldn't just jump to regulation, but is there a specific legal or policy guardrail you would favor for avoiding that situation?

Or are you just not there yet?

What do you, I mean, you said you're working on this.

I mean, what are your hypotheses or how are you approaching trying to solve that problem?

Like maybe you're just actively thinking about it.

That's great.

That's cool.

Makes perfect sense.

Yeah.

You're basically doing some of the prompting for them or the context engineering to bring it to the forefront of what it can do.

I like that.

And then as part of that, you're building your own foundation models like MAI-1, which you just released in preview.

And then you're integrating external models into Copilot as well, like those from OpenAI or other partners.

Um, how, how are you balancing, like, where you want to build models to kind of improve for the capabilities that you see are, are missing?

And how are you balancing where it's like, hey, we're gonna work with our partners here?

Like, what's, what's your...