Grant

that it needed to be kept out of the public view.

And it's needed to be kept out of the public view for six decades.

And I think that's just an extraordinary thing.

But it's something that we see in common, of course, with lots of other UFO incidents that have happened over the years and perhaps more recently.

We all have this frustration with those perhaps more important or more prominent UFO incidents.

We know they happened.

We know there was some level of government involvement.

We know there were witnesses who still remember these incidents happening, but we just can't get that documentary evidence for it.

And it's frustrating, it's intriguing, but it's also what's kept me on the trail these past 21 years.

Well, I mean, the more obvious explanation for what was seen at Westall, of course, is that it was something human.

Because we know there are humans.

We don't know there are non-humans.

well of course some people have a religious faith and I have a religious faith too so for some people we are aware of so-called what we like to call these days non-human intelligences and whether you're talking about angels or the divine or but we know there are human beings we don't know that there are extraterrestrials and so we don't know

what was behind the UFOs that were seen at Westall.

But it's fair enough to presume, and of course I make the presumption too, that it was more likely something terrestrial, something from a technology here on Earth.

But we need the evidence for that.

And that's, I feel, something that's still lacking.

We can imagine that it was something like this or something like that,

But where is the evidence that it was something technological, for example, something experimental, something like an early drone technology, some device that was exhibiting some sort of anti-gravitic property that could fly without any noise and fly quickly and fly slowly and fly without any of the normal attributes associated with aircraft, like wings and tails and windows and...

engines and all those sorts of things.