Gray Delaney

So what does that say for the future of HHS and for Maha?

I don't know, but we're ringing the alarm bells, and that's why we're here on your show today.

Can I add one more point in defense of Dr. Hatfield?

Great.

So who is actually calling shots at HHS?

Yeah, we only got about a minute.

Who's actually calling the shots at HHS?

Because Dr. Hatfield, I mean, I'm a lower level staffer.

I may not expect to hear, I was supposed to hear from Secretary Kennedy after I was dismissed.

But Dr. Hatfield is a scientist,

I mean, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Secretary Kennedy, but Dr. Rockefeller deserved an exclamation directly from Secretary Kennedy because he was fighting.

He cut over a billion dollars from BARDA.

I mean, talk about progress.

That's some of the most progress that's been made at HHS, and he deserves a call from Secretary Kennedy.

So I'm calling on Secretary to release a statement, and for this to be resolved because this is extremely troubling.

I have a new article that just came out about who is calling the shots at HHS.

At Sail PGD on X. Thank you.

That's exactly right.

And even an example, and Dr. Lapidow talked about the vaccine issue at CDC.

It's not just, oh, they go crazy with the vaccine issue.