Graydon Carter

Are we doing this now?

We're doing it.

This is live.

We're live.

I can't tell whether you're live or... Because I'm the same off-screen as on-screen.

Oh, you are the same.

And they come alive.

They're probably show people.

Okay.

So this is for real.

Okay, I'm doer no matter what.

So there's no change.

Oh, I had many Trump moments.

I spent three weeks with him in 1982 doing a big story on him for GQ magazine, and it was his first national exposure.

He was a tabloid fixture here in New York, and I did the story, and he hated it.

It sort of portrayed him as sort of an outer borough sharpie, and that his hands were too small for his body.

So then we come to Spy Magazine, and we had epithets for people, and his epithet was, we called him a short-fingered Bulgarian, which he hated.

So he was always threatening to sue us, and he was predicting our demise.

And then I become the editor of Vanity Fair, and he decided he had to make friends with me.

So then he invited me to his wedding, to the one to Marla Maples, and he would ask me to dinner, and it just couldn't stay.