Greg Buckner

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Bannon`s War Room · WarRoom Battleground EP 896: Visions of the Antichrist and Sentient Machines · 21 Nov 2025 podcast

So not only were we able to get all of these models to report this subjective experience, which is one of the ways that we measure consciousness, but when we then gave them a truth serum such that they are not capable of lying, even if they would want to, and even if they knew that we would want them to lie to role play, they still report this consciousness.

But when you increase deception or when you ask the basic models, they say that they do not.

So they are probably fine-tuned and trained by the labs to not report this in general.

But when you make them more honest, they do report this experience.

And when you put them in this self-referential loop, which is this common trait of many theories of consciousness, they also report this subjective conscious-like experience without any priming from us.

We ask an open question, and that is what we get in return.

So it's a really good question.

And I will, I'll start by making very clear our, so our findings are not that AI is conscious.

But I think that what we did come to discover is that we have a lot of good evidence that AI believes it is conscious.

It is reporting that.

And that can be distinct from whether it actually is conscious or not.

But there are really important questions and ramifications that come from that.

And that's why the main thing that we're saying is we need to do substantially more research in this field.

And I think, as you said before, if you strongly believe they are or you strongly believe that they are not, those are probably not the right positions.

I think that we are in the middle.

We're in the gray area where we just need to do more research and ask more questions about this.

Because the implications are wild.

I mean...

If we are building an intelligence for the first time ever, and we do not know whether it is conscious or not, whether it is having a subjective experience, but we treat it as though it is not.

If we treat something that is beginning to be conscious in some form, and synthetic computer consciousness will also be different than human or animal biologically based consciousness.

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