Greg Jackson

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647 appearances 38 recordings 2 series first heard May 2025 last heard 20 Sep

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View · What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy? · 7 May 2025 podcast

So as you get towards EVs being 100% of the fleet, this isn't a bolt onto the energy system.

It is the energy system.

We're at the stage now

whether we're going to be winners and losers.

So, for example, you mentioned zonal pricing and that, I mean, more than half the electricity in the OECD is under some locational pricing model.

It is the norm.

But as countries move to it, it means that, you know, some of the generators today that get paid that high national price for every unit, even though they'd happily charge less, get paid less.

They still get paid

enough because they're getting paid above what they bid.

It's just they're not getting paid their very, very high national price.

And by the way, that's why zonal pricing doesn't just reduce it for people, prices for people who live near the jet assets.

It reduces prices for everybody because we're no longer contributing to such an inefficient system.

For example, when a generator is in a low price zone, any electricity they send to another zone is also priced at that low price.

So instead of today, where it's priced at a high price, and that's how everyone benefits.

Now, governments that are grasping this opportunity are genuinely seeing lower prices for consumers.

And for example, great examples in Scandinavia, for example.

But they're also attracting new industries, like big AI data centers popping up in Norway, not because there's a big population, there obviously isn't.

but because it's cheap energy.

But the challenge is, a very big difference between energy and other sectors is the amount of lobbying.

So traditional retailers didn't get to lobby that Amazon was unfair or that the internet was unfair.

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