Greg Jenner

The Italian secretary is the one who takes the fall.

Because he's got a book on toxicology in his library. He's got a book called How to Poison People 101.

Because he's got a book on toxicology in his library. He's got a book called How to Poison People 101.

So the Italian guy is called Monte Caccioli, I think.

So the Italian guy is called Monte Caccioli, I think.

And so that's Francois as the secretary. So his death is pretty dramatic, Chappie. Do you know how he is executed?

And so that's Francois as the secretary. So his death is pretty dramatic, Chappie. Do you know how he is executed?

I mean, that's certainly a nice way to go if you have to. No, he's ripped apart by horses.

I mean, that's certainly a nice way to go if you have to. No, he's ripped apart by horses.

It's pretty horrible. Catherine not ripped apart by horses, which is good because it'd be a short podcast. So she doesn't go down for the crime, but there are people who believe that she might be implicated, but they can't prove it.

It's pretty horrible. Catherine not ripped apart by horses, which is good because it'd be a short podcast. So she doesn't go down for the crime, but there are people who believe that she might be implicated, but they can't prove it.

Go for it because I think it's really interesting. The Pope dies. Yeah. Which is interesting. So Pope Clement VII dies, her great uncle.

Go for it because I think it's really interesting. The Pope dies. Yeah. Which is interesting. So Pope Clement VII dies, her great uncle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She was. She invented side saddle or she pioneered?

She was. She invented side saddle or she pioneered?

Shafi, your face right now.

Shafi, your face right now.

You should film this podcast.