Greg Lukianoff

And that one's tactical.

That one isn't just someone not being empathetic.

They're like, I'm going to punish you for this.

And that's one of the reasons why I got depressed writing this book.

Because there's already people who don't love me because of Coddling the American Mind.

Usually based on a misunderstanding of what we actually said in Coddling the American Mind, but nonetheless.

But on this one, I'm calling out people for being very cruel in a lot of cases.

But one thing that was really scary about studying a lot of these cases is that once you have that target on your back, what they're going to try to cancel you for could be anything.

They might go back into your old boats, find something that you said in 1995, do something –

Um, where essentially it looks like it's this entire other thing, but really what they're, what's going on is they didn't like your opinion.

They didn't like your point of view on something.

And they're going to find a, find a way that from now on, anytime your name comes up, it's like, oh, remember this, this thing I didn't like about him.

And it's, again, it's cruel.

It doesn't get you anywhere closer to the truth.

And, but it is a little scary to stick your neck out.

Yeah.

Five and seven-year-old.

Oh, God, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.