Gregg Braden

Do you?

Do you see anything like that?

Exactly.

It's kind of evil.

Well, I think what you said is really important.

Many people are naive.

Because they are participating doesn't mean that they're evil people.

Right.

And that even goes for- I think most people.

I agree.

But see, and this is why I said what I said earlier.

We can tie into this.

people who have a propensity, they have a spiritual weakness.

This is a spiritual battle, not religious, but it's a deeply spiritual battle that's playing out on earth right now.

And it's showing up in every facet of our lives, whether we want to think about it or not.

People that have a propensity for greed because that's their spiritual weakness or a propensity for power or control, they will fall into those roles they don't even know.

And I've worked with people and I've been in organizations and I've seen it happen.

They're naive.

Many of them, some of them know exactly what they're doing.

There are some that know exactly what they're doing, but most of them don't.