Gretchen Swinn
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When Gretchen broke the bad news to Robert, she said he had trouble understanding it.
Gretchen filed more appeals.
They were all denied.
Robert was given his second date to die.
Brian Wharton couldn't believe a judge had not stepped in.
Now, the former detective who'd been consumed by the question of justice made Robert's case a personal mission.
He wanted to look Robert in the eye and ask for forgiveness.
And he vowed to do everything he could to help Gretchen.
I owe Robert nothing less.
They would soon find allies in the most unlikely place, sparking a historic and unprecedented legal showdown.
This is recorded.
It's September 2024.
Robert Robertson has 23 days to live.
I'm on my way to speak with him.
I flew in overnight from New York to Houston, now making the 90-minute drive to the prison in Livingston, Texas.
We spoke the way all conversations happen on death row, through plexiglass on a phone.
How you doing, Mr. Hope?