Guido Appenzeller

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Orbit - An Hg software leadership podcast · Harnessing a new superpower: Chris Kindt speaks to Guido Appenzeller Part 2 · 2 Oct 2023 podcast

So I think you should not only see this as an opportunity, but you should also should be a little bit of fear that if you're not able to leverage these new technologies quickly enough, right?

No, that's a great question.

I mean, w will we get to a point where I just state the intent of my program in a quick English sentence and and then out comes pages and pages of code, hit compile, I'm done.

So my impression is no.

And that's that's actually it's a very

nuanced topic, but I think there's some good arguments why we'll still need software engineers in the future, right?

And they'll be more productive because sure are more powerful, right?

But but we we still need them.

The first thing is why are programming languages complex?

It's not that we were trying to make our work harder by finding a cryptic way to express something.

It's more that in order to describe the exact behavior of a program, we want to be fairly precise.

And doing that with English language is actually very hard.

If I would challenge you to explain to me in in English language every single possible outcome of a program, you probably have to write way more text than the corresponding Python code or something like that.

Yeah.

So it's

The complexity comes from the complexity underlying problem, not from the language itself.

So I think at the end of the day we can't gain anything from that.

What we can do is, you know, we can say we have a large language model, let's try to pick up context and it suggests, right?

And that can often cut things short.

I mean, the beauty of these coding assistants is not that they write perfect code, it's they write extremely imperfect code.

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