Guillaume Moubache

So someone listening right now, there's a lot of private equity folks that listen came and offered seven million all cash up front.

So it's a clean deal, no burnout.

I mean, would you have to think seriously about that with your co-founders?

No, no, no.

It's it's just because like our strategy is is really like long term.

And there is so many things that needs to be changed in the especially in the sales

where I really feel like a lot of people have said so much bullshit about the entire, you know, like sales field overall.

It's I think there is a lot of wrong things, you know, like a lot of people think that to be a good salesman, you need to be like a man, you need to be strong, you need to play sports, et cetera, et cetera.

But actually, when you look at, you know, like overall,

all the studies, you see that best salespeople are introverts, best salespeople are usually women.

And for me, it's like just a fake image of what sales is about.

Lots of people think that sales, you know, it's like ABC, always be closing.

Actually, it's the opposite.

You know, you should always be helping people.

try to provide as much value as possible, etc.

And I think we have so much more to do in that space that we want to stay and grow the company for at least three to five years.

And later on, when I would feel like we've done a great job and things are changing, maybe I'll consider an exit.

Can you correlate your belief that the current knowledge out there about sales is not accurate with real product decisions you made in the past four months at Lemlist?

Can you talk about one of them?

Yeah, definitely.