Gus Docker

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341 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2025 last heard Aug 2025

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These systems, large language models and reasoning models, do you think that they will be more helpful for defending against cyber attacks or for actually doing cyber attacks?
So will how will they upset the offense defense balance that exists now?
As things are now, uh large companies and and governments and so on, they have more resources in general.
And so they they have more ability to to defend themselves from from cyber attacks, and perhaps this is why the world keeps uh keeps functioning at at least at a at a somewhat decent level.
Isn't it the case that in the future, even if even if uh say both an attacker and a government or company had access
to the same model, the the company or government will have access to to more, say, compute resources, and so they'll be able to run more models, they'll be able to run these models for longer.
And so they will they will continue having it off the hand.
How would you rate in general terms cybersecurity, the informational security or the information security of leading AI companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, Google DeepMind, and so on?
Yeah.
Which is wild when you think of the fact that these companies are racing to develop these very advanced and capable systems.
That can then be the the system itself is not that uh large.
It it it's not a very large file.
And so you w you if you get access to the to that to to the model weights basically, you you have you have a a a very advanced AI system that that that you
you that you shouldn't have had a access to.
What what can we do about that?
Should AI companies increasingly look like military facilities that are secured both both physically and and from cyber attacks?
Yeah.
What I sense from you is a sense of urgency in dealing with these problems and a sense that things will begin moving very fast and that we will get to very advanced systems basically within years at this point.
That's a that's a that's a sentiment that I've heard from from many people who are uh kind of in the trenches, uh who are perhaps building these systems, who are deeply engaged with how these systems work.
Why is it that you that you think we are we are racing towards these systems?
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