Guy Nespina

And so, you know, I made myself more windswept and interesting.

So we then came up with a very elaborate scheme and it involved me being on an evaluation team in New Zealand to look to buy the F-16.

So we're talking about the late 80s and it was the spitfire of the 80s and still...

a hugely valuable aeroplane.

The Russians, the GRU in particular, but both the KGB and the GRU, were interested hugely in two things, and the Americans were right onto this.

We needed to try and do something about it.

They were after technology on semiconductors,

Nothing's changed.

So, you know, computer chips.

They were particularly interested in anything that Texas Instruments were doing and Motorola were doing because they were the lead people 40 years ago.

You know, it's a bit different now, but that's stuff they're still after.

And the other thing that they were interested in was guidance systems for all sorts of rocketry, whether it was aircraft-based or cruise missiles, those sorts of things.

It's the very birth of that sort of technology.

So we were there...

We were trying to prevent them from getting that information.

Basically, you let them think they're recruiting you and you pass information to them, which then goes back to the Soviet Union and they work on this technology and it just takes them down a hole.

It's dead end, takes them somewhere and they've then spent six months, eight months, all the technical people working on this and it takes them nowhere.

So what you're doing is basically delaying and slowing them up and that sort of thing.

And some of that was very successful.

For example...