Guy Winch

I was living the dream that I wanted to have for so long.

I lost all sentiment for it because I was so burnt out, jaded, exhausted.

Absolutely.

Look, I don't know.

I haven't done the research in terms of the numbers globally, but I've worked with so many people who are questioning, am I in the right?

Am I doing the right thing?

And they were doing important work.

And actually people who are doing really important work tend to get burnt out because it's important, because they keep saying yes, because they really want to help and they want to do something meaningful.

They're much more at risk for this burnout.

And then they start questioning, does it matter what I'm doing?

Yes, it does.

But you need to take care of yourself in order to keep going.

I want to be clear with people that I work with a lot of the employers, with the founders, with the CEOs.

They're not having a great time.

Many of them are also burnt out.

Yeah, they're also burnt out.

I mean, it's not like, oh, we don't work and we make it.

They're working just as hard or more.

So they're also very vulnerable.

to this but one of the things that we need to catch is that when we are stressed out the bell curve of how we deal with stress and performance is such that it goes the more stress we have we start to perform better because if there's not enough we don't have skin in the game the stakes are low we don't try as hard there's this goldilocks area