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And the part of it that has become the most prominent is one that asserts that the way to realize you know, their faith in the modern age is to try to, you know, exert Christian political power, right? And so this is the rise of the moral majority. This is the Christian right that we're seeing and that we're talking about.

And the part of it that has become the most prominent is one that asserts that the way to realize you know, their faith in the modern age is to try to, you know, exert Christian political power, right? And so this is the rise of the moral majority. This is the Christian right that we're seeing and that we're talking about.

And that has very fundamentally changed American politics in the past several decades, for sure. But there's a whole different trend within evangelicalism that in some ways the largest churches in America kind of come out of that trend. And that trend is really rooted in much more of a missionary tradition.

And that has very fundamentally changed American politics in the past several decades, for sure. But there's a whole different trend within evangelicalism that in some ways the largest churches in America kind of come out of that trend. And that trend is really rooted in much more of a missionary tradition.

Where the idea is, is that the way in which you realize your faith or realize the vision of, you know, God's kingdom on earth is not focused necessarily on exerting political power, but instead is on converting as many people as possible to Christianity, right? And so the goal there is humans, it's souls, you know, that they're trying to convert.

Where the idea is, is that the way in which you realize your faith or realize the vision of, you know, God's kingdom on earth is not focused necessarily on exerting political power, but instead is on converting as many people as possible to Christianity, right? And so the goal there is humans, it's souls, you know, that they're trying to convert.

And that's why, you know, some of the biggest mega churches in our country country really come out of that missionary tradition because they're so focused on growth as opposed to the ones that get the most political attention, which are often focused more on political power.

And that's why, you know, some of the biggest mega churches in our country country really come out of that missionary tradition because they're so focused on growth as opposed to the ones that get the most political attention, which are often focused more on political power.

Yeah, this is an area where I think the data that we have is actually very challenging for a variety of reasons, which is the idea that we definitely have a lot of data that says people who self-identify as evangelical are increasingly more likely to be conservative.

Yeah, this is an area where I think the data that we have is actually very challenging for a variety of reasons, which is the idea that we definitely have a lot of data that says people who self-identify as evangelical are increasingly more likely to be conservative.

And I will just say, I just want to be really clear that I think no matter how you cut the data, evangelicals tend to be more conservative than not. I think that is unequivocally true. Is it as extreme as numbers where it's like eight and 10 white evangelicals voted for Trump? You know, I think those numbers are overstated.

And I will just say, I just want to be really clear that I think no matter how you cut the data, evangelicals tend to be more conservative than not. I think that is unequivocally true. Is it as extreme as numbers where it's like eight and 10 white evangelicals voted for Trump? You know, I think those numbers are overstated.

And the reason for that is precisely what you said, which is one of the things that we know is that there are a lot of people who identify with the political agenda of evangelicalism that will self-identify as evangelical, even if they don't adhere to the faith tenets of evangelicalism.

And the reason for that is precisely what you said, which is one of the things that we know is that there are a lot of people who identify with the political agenda of evangelicalism that will self-identify as evangelical, even if they don't adhere to the faith tenets of evangelicalism.

Whereas there are people who may not agree with a political agenda of evangelicalism, even if they adhere to the doctrinal beliefs that define evangelicalism as theology. And then when a pollster calls them and says, are you evangelical? They say, no. You know, they might say that I'm a Christ follower. They might say I'm a Jesus follower. They might say I'm Christian follower.

Whereas there are people who may not agree with a political agenda of evangelicalism, even if they adhere to the doctrinal beliefs that define evangelicalism as theology. And then when a pollster calls them and says, are you evangelical? They say, no. You know, they might say that I'm a Christ follower. They might say I'm a Jesus follower. They might say I'm Christian follower.

But they won't say that they're evangelical because they associate that with a political identity that doesn't represent them. And so the data is really murky, you know, and there's this question of who gets to define what evangelical is. Is it adherence to the political identity? Is it adherence to the faith identity? Is it the people who show up in the pews on Sundays?

But they won't say that they're evangelical because they associate that with a political identity that doesn't represent them. And so the data is really murky, you know, and there's this question of who gets to define what evangelical is. Is it adherence to the political identity? Is it adherence to the faith identity? Is it the people who show up in the pews on Sundays?

You know, it's like there's a lot of murkiness around it.

You know, it's like there's a lot of murkiness around it.