Hank Azaria

But that also became a programmatic issue because that brings up a lot of fear and anger and sadness and upset and low self-esteem issues.

And that's the workaholism of Hollywood is you're worthless unless the movie did well, the show did well, the thing's well-reviewed, it found an audience, people love me.

You know, fame wasn't what I was expecting it was gonna be.

That was crushing to me.

What did you think it was gonna be?

I thought it would be this warm, loving... Completion?

I don't know.

I tell this to my friends sometimes.

Like, what do you imagine fame is?

You know, like, well, everybody loves you and kind of are sweet to you and tables in restaurants and, you know, people you love know you and they come over.

And I said, it's some of that.

I said, but, um...

The first thing I got even semi-famous for in my career was a show back in the 80s called Herman's Head.

It's a Fox show.

It's a good idea for a show.

Yeah, they made it better with Inside Out, Pixar did, years later.

We were sort of the... There was like four characters in this guy's head?

Yeah, in the head.

Were you one of them?

No.