Hannah Barnes

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509 appearances 22 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2011 last heard Oct 2013

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Just a totally bizarre message came up when he went to click on the link. matched
Well, eventually the fog lifted and a spokesman for the United Nations Environment Programme told me the map had been removed because it was wrong. matched
They had, and this work had been unquestioningly adopted by all sorts of eminent bodies, like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. matched
But some academics had doubted his numbers from the start. matched
Stephen Castles from the International Migration Institute at Oxford University outlined some of his concerns to me at the time. matched
Yes, it's his projection for the number of climate refugees there'll be by 2050. matched
Yes, and he defended his methods to us at the time. matched
But if you can't prove that there are, then we shouldn't be making the statement, should we?
We can't prove it.
Well, to be fair to Norman Myers, he did make it clear in his research that not everyone he classes as an environmental refugee will flee their country. matched
He just said that they'll be forced to move, and that could well be internally. matched
But that's tens of thousands, not tens of millions.
Thank you for downloading More or Less from the BBC. voice-verified
This is the version of the programme first broadcast on BBC Radio 4. voice-verified
Here's Tim Harford. voice-verified
Well, first up, one of our listeners, Martin Bowley, questioned how the 13,000 extra or needless deaths had been calculated in the first place. voice-verified
No, instead, Sir Bruce, who's medical director for the NHS in England, said that, and I'm quoting now, however tempting it may be, it is clinically meaningless and academically reckless to use such statistical measures to quantify actual numbers of avoidable deaths. voice-verified
And he says that because the HSMR is not a measure of avoidable deaths or needless deaths, as the papers prefer to call them. voice-verified
And the Telegraph got that number and those data from Professor Sir Brian Jarman, who's head of an organisation known as Dr Foster, which is based at Imperial College in London. voice-verified
He's clear he never said the HSMRs measured needless or avoidable deaths, and nobody could responsibly do so. voice-verified
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