Hannah Barnes

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509 appearances 22 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2011 last heard Oct 2013

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More or Less · How useful is GDP? · 22 Apr 2011 podcast

So the PISA numbers are only calculated every three years and they started in 2000. voice-verified

But Andreas Schleicher says the data for the UK wasn't good enough in 2000 and 2003 and should be ignored. voice-verified

You can make a comparison between 2009 and 2006, he says, but that's it. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

So imagine how poor old Andreas felt when he heard this. voice-verified

I did. voice-verified

Well, we invited him to come on, but his department sent us a statement instead saying, among other things, that their reforms are based on wide-ranging domestic and international evidence. voice-verified

But despite asking a number of times, the department hasn't directly addressed this question of comparing PISA numbers in a manner PISA itself doesn't like. voice-verified

Well, perhaps it was just an innocent mistake. voice-verified

Well, maybe. voice-verified

I asked that question of Alan Smithers, a professor of education at the University of Buckingham. voice-verified

He's not so sure. voice-verified

I think you just did. voice-verified

Well, but you're right. voice-verified

We've been sent a new and as yet unpublished paper by a Danish statistics professor called Svend Kreiner. voice-verified

He's really worried about the PISA rankings. voice-verified

Now, to understand what led Kreiner to say that, it's probably helpful to explain a little bit about how the PISA tests work. voice-verified

There are tests in maths, science and reading. voice-verified

Sven has taken the data from the reading tests only. voice-verified

Each 15-year-old taking part in the test is given a booklet with 28 reading questions. voice-verified

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