Hannah Nitz

Yeah.

So for those of us who are wanting to maybe engage in this more in our own circles of saying, like, man, how do I disagree with someone?

Stand on what truth matters.

Love them in the body of Christ.

Like, practically...

Well, what does that mean?

Yeah.

Not a great feeling.

I think those are really practical things, Julie, on this individual level, relationships, things we're engaging in our own church, our own conversation.

It is interesting as we're talking about this, though, I'm just even thinking about this kind of cancel culture feel that I've been drawn to in ways that don't feel as personal.

I remember when the podcast The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill came out about this huge church falling.

I was like, oh, baby, I'm going to listen to this.

Or there's been all these different documentaries on – I think there's one on Hillsong.

Different worship groups that were like, oh, let's watch it crumble.

We're drawn – I mean, I don't know we.

I'll say me.

I've been drawn to this out of being just interested in that.

Is that feeding into this problem?

No, you're totally right.

Man, but I can think of in the last couple months, podcast episodes or sermons that I've listened to and sent to you or sent to others and be like, yo, you've got to watch this.