Hannah Rosen

And what about from the Iran side?

Have we seen them budge in negotiations like this in the past?

Right.

So it sounds like there still could be off ramps.

Let's get into what you just mentioned, because Trump did the same thing.

He repeated again in the State of the Union this week that the U.S.

obliterated the nuclear program and also said they had to go in and make sure Iran had no nuclear weapons.

So how do you make sense of that?

What does that add up to?

That they didn't obliterate the nuclear program.

Okay.

But does it add up to that a military action can't obliterate a nuclear program?

Yes.

Right.

So essentially these talks are necessary to achieve the goal.

If the goal is, you know, limited to the nuclear program, we haven't talked about other potential goals, then you need these diplomatic talks to get there.

Right.

And do you get the sense from sources in the Pentagon that they are putting faith in these negotiations to change anything?

So all we know is that right now they're preparing for every possible option.

I didn't know that, what you just said, that we don't have those potential troops because it seems as if we sometimes talk like we do, like that every option is possible that we could accomplish whatever we needed to in Iran.