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Hannah Rosen

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Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

We're trying to figure that out, still trying to figure that out. But in any case, I was added to this group, and it's a misdirected email or text chain that... I shouldn't have been on. But the larger point, and obviously Shane can speak to this, the larger point is that why is this conversation happening out in the open?

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

We're trying to figure that out, still trying to figure that out. But in any case, I was added to this group, and it's a misdirected email or text chain that... I shouldn't have been on. But the larger point, and obviously Shane can speak to this, the larger point is that why is this conversation happening out in the open?

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Now, I know Signal is end-to-end encrypted, but it's a commercial texting service that anyone, not just people with security clearances in the federal government, can join.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Now, I know Signal is end-to-end encrypted, but it's a commercial texting service that anyone, not just people with security clearances in the federal government, can join.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Now, I know Signal is end-to-end encrypted, but it's a commercial texting service that anyone, not just people with security clearances in the federal government, can join.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

So that's the essential danger, and that's – if you want to think about an original sin, the original sin is communicating very sensitive information in a channel where you can mistakenly bring in – I mean, forget the editor of The Atlantic. You could have brought in a Houthi.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

So that's the essential danger, and that's – if you want to think about an original sin, the original sin is communicating very sensitive information in a channel where you can mistakenly bring in – I mean, forget the editor of The Atlantic. You could have brought in a Houthi.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

So that's the essential danger, and that's – if you want to think about an original sin, the original sin is communicating very sensitive information in a channel where you can mistakenly bring in – I mean, forget the editor of The Atlantic. You could have brought in a Houthi.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

For all you know. You could bring in somebody who is actively sympathetic to the Houthis and sharing real-time information with you. That's somewhat appalling.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

For all you know. You could bring in somebody who is actively sympathetic to the Houthis and sharing real-time information with you. That's somewhat appalling.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

For all you know. You could bring in somebody who is actively sympathetic to the Houthis and sharing real-time information with you. That's somewhat appalling.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Sure, Pete Hexeth writing in all caps about how he finds the Europeans pathetic. J.D. Vance sounding like a kind of quasi-isolationist, talking about why would we do this sort of thing? Europe should take care of this problem. It's not our problem. Trade conversations. The most interesting one and the one that I thought, whoa, that really does sound like the guy,

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Sure, Pete Hexeth writing in all caps about how he finds the Europeans pathetic. J.D. Vance sounding like a kind of quasi-isolationist, talking about why would we do this sort of thing? Europe should take care of this problem. It's not our problem. Trade conversations. The most interesting one and the one that I thought, whoa, that really does sound like the guy,

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

Sure, Pete Hexeth writing in all caps about how he finds the Europeans pathetic. J.D. Vance sounding like a kind of quasi-isolationist, talking about why would we do this sort of thing? Europe should take care of this problem. It's not our problem. Trade conversations. The most interesting one and the one that I thought, whoa, that really does sound like the guy,

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

At the end of this chain, Stephen Miller, or I should say S.M., a person identified as S.M., comes in and basically shuts the conversation down and said, I heard the president. He was clear to me he wants to do this. It was basically—and obviously this is really interesting—

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

At the end of this chain, Stephen Miller, or I should say S.M., a person identified as S.M., comes in and basically shuts the conversation down and said, I heard the president. He was clear to me he wants to do this. It was basically—and obviously this is really interesting—

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

At the end of this chain, Stephen Miller, or I should say S.M., a person identified as S.M., comes in and basically shuts the conversation down and said, I heard the president. He was clear to me he wants to do this. It was basically—and obviously this is really interesting—

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

It's a conversation with not only the secretaries of state, treasury and defense, but the vice president of the United States. And here comes Stephen Miller, deputy chief of staff, ostensibly just deputy chief of staff, coming in and saying, everybody, the president spoke. I heard it. Y'all need to just stop doing what you're doing.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

It's a conversation with not only the secretaries of state, treasury and defense, but the vice president of the United States. And here comes Stephen Miller, deputy chief of staff, ostensibly just deputy chief of staff, coming in and saying, everybody, the president spoke. I heard it. Y'all need to just stop doing what you're doing.

Radio Atlantic
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Our Editor Their War Plans

It's a conversation with not only the secretaries of state, treasury and defense, but the vice president of the United States. And here comes Stephen Miller, deputy chief of staff, ostensibly just deputy chief of staff, coming in and saying, everybody, the president spoke. I heard it. Y'all need to just stop doing what you're doing.