Harlan Krumholz

And I think this is going to be an incredibly important moment in the architecture of research and how it's disseminated and published.

I don't have the answers yet.

And I'm going to pinch a line from Chris Whitty, who was the chief medical officer.

He had an excellent lecture on the Gresham College website.

And he said, look, I want to say everything that I say now.

If you come back in six months time, a lot of it is going to be different.

I thought that's such a good line.

I'm going to use that more often.

It gets me out of trouble in lots of ways.

But I think I don't have the answer here, but I think we now need a debate about how do we get evidence to where it most makes a difference?

How should end users?

the public interact with that evidence and we had a great example where healthwatch took some of our information and then rewrote it and i just said to him look this is creative commons you can rewrite it what's most important is it gets out there and it helps people understand the decisions that they have to make or are being made on their behalf

So I'm going to get this in.

Academic currency is one of the problems in that currently most of our currency is about getting in a journal.

with a high impact factor, and then that referring back to me with all sorts of metrics, which do not often reflect that actually they're getting to the end user.

I would like to see a change, a sea change in what matters in research, is the more you get to the end users, the more your information and evidence is understood, the more impact you're having.

Yeah, I just think there's something really impressive about being able to take the research and really communicate it in a way that the end users can understand it.

And so in doing that, you also get feedback on whether it makes a difference, what's important.

And I think one thing we have solved is the flow of information in this outbreak.

There's been more published than ever before in a rapid way.