Harley Finkelstein

And I never tried to be somebody else.

I wanted to be the version of me, which is a little bit excited, not always as perfectly articulate.

I speak very quickly.

I want to make sure everyone understands me.

But I've sort of developed my own style of it.

And maybe the third thing, which is probably obvious, but...

great mentors, people that I deeply look up to when it comes to speaking.

And I think the person that has probably done the most for me in terms of watching how he speaks, how he captures the attention of a crowd with story is Seth, Seth Godin.

I think Seth Godin is the world's greatest storyteller.

He can tell a story about

Brussels sprouts.

I have a great story about Brussels sprouts he talks about.

He could tell a story about coffee or purple cows and watching him and talking to him and learning from him.

And then it's just reps.

How many reps have you done?

I mean, the reason that, you know, Toby is such a great coder is he's written more code than probably anyone else at Shopify.

Even now.

I mean, he doesn't write as much code now as he once did, but just in terms of longevity of software development, he's had more reps than other people have done.

We hear this about athletes all the time.

The greatest athletes were the ones that got up early, that went to the gym before everyone else got to the gym.