Harmeet Dhillon

And our immediate conclusion, by the way, not just our conclusion, in the case of Minneapolis and Louisville, Federal judges to which these were presented had some tough questions. And in the case of Louisville, the judge asked the DOJ lawyers, these DOJ lawyers I've described from the Civil Rights Division, to explain themselves. How did you reach that conclusion?

What are the data supporting your conclusion? How do you account for variables like... What are the high crime areas? I mean, are the high crime areas racially different than the population of the city? These lawyers did not have answers. It was embarrassing. And so the judge refused to enter the consent decree in Louisville and sent the DOJ back and said, I need your answers. Guess what?

What are the data supporting your conclusion? How do you account for variables like... What are the high crime areas? I mean, are the high crime areas racially different than the population of the city? These lawyers did not have answers. It was embarrassing. And so the judge refused to enter the consent decree in Louisville and sent the DOJ back and said, I need your answers. Guess what?

What are the data supporting your conclusion? How do you account for variables like... What are the high crime areas? I mean, are the high crime areas racially different than the population of the city? These lawyers did not have answers. It was embarrassing. And so the judge refused to enter the consent decree in Louisville and sent the DOJ back and said, I need your answers. Guess what?

This is days before the administration is about to turn over. So we've asked for a couple of continuances. So...

This is days before the administration is about to turn over. So we've asked for a couple of continuances. So...

This is days before the administration is about to turn over. So we've asked for a couple of continuances. So...

You should have to prove it. But as I said, no jury has ever agreed with the DOJ. But what are the measures?

You should have to prove it. But as I said, no jury has ever agreed with the DOJ. But what are the measures?

You should have to prove it. But as I said, no jury has ever agreed with the DOJ. But what are the measures?

Well, so we have, of course, being the government, we have statisticians on our staff at the Department of Justice. I was surprised to show up. I was thinking, oh my gosh, let me look at all these lawyers. What is their trial experience? Oh, there's a PhD in statistics here. That's going to be really useful in court. But they could be, by the way. There are cases.

Well, so we have, of course, being the government, we have statisticians on our staff at the Department of Justice. I was surprised to show up. I was thinking, oh my gosh, let me look at all these lawyers. What is their trial experience? Oh, there's a PhD in statistics here. That's going to be really useful in court. But they could be, by the way. There are cases.

Well, so we have, of course, being the government, we have statisticians on our staff at the Department of Justice. I was surprised to show up. I was thinking, oh my gosh, let me look at all these lawyers. What is their trial experience? Oh, there's a PhD in statistics here. That's going to be really useful in court. But they could be, by the way. There are cases.

So properly deployed, they could be. But if you never have to prove your case, You never have to use them. You simply beat people over the head with a statistics book. And so that's what's happened here. So I'll give you an example. Memphis, Tennessee is one of the cities that the outgoing Department of Justice issued some pretty lurid-looking factual findings in.

So properly deployed, they could be. But if you never have to prove your case, You never have to use them. You simply beat people over the head with a statistics book. And so that's what's happened here. So I'll give you an example. Memphis, Tennessee is one of the cities that the outgoing Department of Justice issued some pretty lurid-looking factual findings in.

So properly deployed, they could be. But if you never have to prove your case, You never have to use them. You simply beat people over the head with a statistics book. And so that's what's happened here. So I'll give you an example. Memphis, Tennessee is one of the cities that the outgoing Department of Justice issued some pretty lurid-looking factual findings in.

And so when you start reading it, you look at, hey, the findings are Memphis is racist and their arrest rates of African-Americans are disproportionate. I'm sorry, let me just say...

And so when you start reading it, you look at, hey, the findings are Memphis is racist and their arrest rates of African-Americans are disproportionate. I'm sorry, let me just say...

And so when you start reading it, you look at, hey, the findings are Memphis is racist and their arrest rates of African-Americans are disproportionate. I'm sorry, let me just say...

Well, so Memphis is majority black. Yes. The police force is majority black. Yes. And guess what? The homeless population, which is the subject of this consent decree finding, pre-consent decree finding, is majority Black.