Harriet Clark

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460 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 15 Aug

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Fresh Air · Harriet Clark spent 37 years visiting her mom in prison · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

And then, of course, over the years, it became much more and more barbed wire and gun tower buildings

And whatnot.

But I think that primarily my memories of the prison from when I was a child, I was trying as minimally as possible to interact with the space.

And I primarily was interacting with the people.

So, you know, I knew all the officers out front.

And so the experience of approaching the prison felt special.

Less like approaching a building or a series of buildings and more like approaching a series of people and processes I was about to engage with.

I mean, yes and no.

I think that there is a way that the prison was a holding container for me and is meant to be a holding container for Susanna.

I think in the prison, she's existing inside patterns that really do give a certain kind of steadiness to her life.

Whereas actually, I think one of the things that makes prison in real life quite difficult is that they're always changing things on you.

You know, they don't want you to be stabilized and steady.

The point is a certain kind of perpetual instability so that they can enact control over you.

So I could wear the exact same outfit one week to the next and they could say, nope, those sleeves are too short.

You can't come in.

So actually, my experience wasn't quite as steady as Susanna's is, though I do think that I had an experience of peacefulness by virtue of the fact that I knew nothing was ever going to change.

You know, my mother had been in there as far back as I could remember and she was going to be in there forever.

And so that felt like a kind of steady peace for me and made me feel different than the great difficulties the kids around me were in.

Yes, I think that I did experience myself as having a peace that the children around me did not have.

Because, you know, most children...

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