Harriet Hageman
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110 appearances
4 recordings
3 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 4 Feb
Harriet Hageman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We have politicized science.
We have politicized science.
Sure.
No, that's just fine. And Brett Weinstein is a hero of mine. I think he's exposed a lot of very important machinations out there that we should all know about.
Well, I do have that history. I remember what was going on in the early 1970s. But one of the things that we did do is that we actually went in and cleaned up the rivers and the industrial sites. We all worked very, very hard at that. I'm not saying that I'm opposed to the Clean Air Act or the Clean Water Act. I'm not opposed to any of those things. I support the Endangered Species Act.
I support the Federal Land Policy Management Act. I support those because they had a purpose and we have used them very effectively to to address the problems that we had with our streams and rivers and the air pollution that we had. But that's what my point is. We have the ability to innovate, and we've done that. And we've done an absolutely phenomenal job.
And in doing so, we've also been able to provide energy at an incredibly affordable rate. And in doing that, we have increased life expectancy. We've decreased infant mortality rate. We have made innovations in the medical field, in curing cancer, in how do we treat osteoporosis.
There are so many things that we've done, but we've done that because of affordable energy, and we've done that through innovation. What's happened with the more recent environmental movement is they want to take away all of the innovation and claiming we're destroying the environment. But once they take away the innovation, once they take away affordable energy, we don't get to innovate anymore.
Go to a third world country and tell me how they take care of the environment because the fact is they don't. They can't afford to. They're just trying to feed their people and keep a roof over their heads. Look at the kind of respiratory problems that we have in Africa because we will not allow them to develop reliable electricity anymore. We forced them to cook over dung and wood.
The challenge is that, Dr. Drew, I know that you know this, the health problems that they have in those countries are because we refuse to allow them to do what we have done, which is develop affordable and reliable energy.
So what I look at is we're watching Germany deindustrialize right before our eyes. And they're doing it all in the name of climate change and global warming. And they're making their people miserable. And ultimately, it's going to crash their economy. And it's destroying their ability to produce the things that they need.
So one of the things that I think the radical environmentalists have failed to recognize is that humans are part of the natural environment as well. And they want to exclude humans as being part of the baseline. But we are part of the baseline. We've existed here since the beginning of time. So when we're managing these resources, we have to be balancing the various interests.
We have 1,000 grizzly bears in Wyoming. Our recovery goal was 500. We've had a recovered grizzly bear population for over two decades. We can't get the Fish and Wildlife Service to... delist the grizzly bear because by refusing to delist the grizzly bear, they control large swaths of land in Wyoming. In the meantime, it's been devastating to our elk population.
It's a huge risk to our farmers and our ranchers and our anglers and our hikers and our recreationists. So all of these things, when they try to pretend that humans are not part of the natural environment, then when they insert us, they say, and look at how you ruined everything. When in fact, we haven't ruined anything. We've made things better.
I believe that he is, and I look forward to working with him. Again, what we have to look at with all of this discussion is the balance. And it's a balance that is going to benefit everybody. It's going to ensure that we have the prosperity to protect our environment.
And when you get out of balance, like Germany has, is when you see the destruction of your economy and your ability then to preserve what it is you claim to want to preserve.
So really what you have to go back to is extremism doesn't help anybody. And when you start realizing what extremism is, it really opens your eyes very, very quickly. You've talked about COVID several times. They made huge mistakes at the very beginning by lying to us about the origin of it. Anybody with a lick of sense knew that it came from the Wuhan laboratory.
That was not difficult to figure out. But we had our powers that be and our betters that were lying to us about those things. Well, then that undermines our trust in them with everything that they did after that. And I think that that's what's happening with someone like an RFK Jr.,
is that he's looking at, he was walking down this road and had been for decades, but he's smart enough and he's intelligent enough and he's discerning enough. And discernment is incredibly important. That is a skill or that is a character trait that we need more people to have discernment. He is discerning enough to recognize that he has been fed a line of
on certain things, and he started questioning it and saying, you know, I really don't believe this. I'm going to find out more about it, and I'm going to surround myself with people, and I'm going to ask questions. One of the frustrations that I have when I'm doing my committee work in Congress is there are these bombs that are thrown at us all the time.
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