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Harvey Mason Jr.

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435 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

people that are creating, but as music becomes more and more, uh, you know, blurred together or mashed up, I guess I'll say there will be some conversations around how we're going to title the words, how we're going to include them in different fields and who should be voting on them. Right now we have different fields.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

So you have, you know, a rock field, none of that will be a bunch of different genres of rock. Then you'll have a hip-hop field and a classical field. The way our voting works is we encourage our voters to vote in three fields. You don't want somebody who doesn't know anything about country just going into that category because their favorite artist is over there or

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

So you have, you know, a rock field, none of that will be a bunch of different genres of rock. Then you'll have a hip-hop field and a classical field. The way our voting works is we encourage our voters to vote in three fields. You don't want somebody who doesn't know anything about country just going into that category because their favorite artist is over there or

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

So you have, you know, a rock field, none of that will be a bunch of different genres of rock. Then you'll have a hip-hop field and a classical field. The way our voting works is we encourage our voters to vote in three fields. You don't want somebody who doesn't know anything about country just going into that category because their favorite artist is over there or

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Vice versa, you don't need someone voting in classical that only knows one classical artist. So the way we try and do it is have qualified voters voting for the music that they like. Now, to your point, as music changes and genre walls come down, we'll be able to open that up a little bit more. But that is, again, something that will be determined by our professional music community.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Vice versa, you don't need someone voting in classical that only knows one classical artist. So the way we try and do it is have qualified voters voting for the music that they like. Now, to your point, as music changes and genre walls come down, we'll be able to open that up a little bit more. But that is, again, something that will be determined by our professional music community.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Vice versa, you don't need someone voting in classical that only knows one classical artist. So the way we try and do it is have qualified voters voting for the music that they like. Now, to your point, as music changes and genre walls come down, we'll be able to open that up a little bit more. But that is, again, something that will be determined by our professional music community.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Our members will say, hey, Harvey, you know what? Membership team at the Academy, you know what? We think rock and jazz sound like it's coming together. Let's put that in one category. And when that happens, because our members are telling us these things, it will happen and that will change the way we vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Our members will say, hey, Harvey, you know what? Membership team at the Academy, you know what? We think rock and jazz sound like it's coming together. Let's put that in one category. And when that happens, because our members are telling us these things, it will happen and that will change the way we vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Our members will say, hey, Harvey, you know what? Membership team at the Academy, you know what? We think rock and jazz sound like it's coming together. Let's put that in one category. And when that happens, because our members are telling us these things, it will happen and that will change the way we vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music in 2024, there's a definition.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music in 2024, there's a definition.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music in 2024, there's a definition.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music is a bit amorphous because it changes from year to year and it has something to do with the term and the title itself, pop, popular. And it's the genre that tends to have The choruses, the sing-along melodies, the right style of production and vocalists. It's very difficult because there are a lot of records that get lumped into pop. As a creator, I can create it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music is a bit amorphous because it changes from year to year and it has something to do with the term and the title itself, pop, popular. And it's the genre that tends to have The choruses, the sing-along melodies, the right style of production and vocalists. It's very difficult because there are a lot of records that get lumped into pop. As a creator, I can create it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Pop music is a bit amorphous because it changes from year to year and it has something to do with the term and the title itself, pop, popular. And it's the genre that tends to have The choruses, the sing-along melodies, the right style of production and vocalists. It's very difficult because there are a lot of records that get lumped into pop. As a creator, I can create it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can show you on a piano and I can sing it, but it is a hard definition to nail down. The voters tend to do a really good job of that and making sure that they're voting for music they feel should be in that category. And also the way our labels and artists and independent labels submit, they submit their music where they want it to be.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can show you on a piano and I can sing it, but it is a hard definition to nail down. The voters tend to do a really good job of that and making sure that they're voting for music they feel should be in that category. And also the way our labels and artists and independent labels submit, they submit their music where they want it to be.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can show you on a piano and I can sing it, but it is a hard definition to nail down. The voters tend to do a really good job of that and making sure that they're voting for music they feel should be in that category. And also the way our labels and artists and independent labels submit, they submit their music where they want it to be.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

And so if somebody feels like, hey, this is a pop record, it'll go into pop. And for the most part, that's where it's evaluated.