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Harvey Mason Jr.

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435 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

And so if somebody feels like, hey, this is a pop record, it'll go into pop. And for the most part, that's where it's evaluated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

And so if somebody feels like, hey, this is a pop record, it'll go into pop. And for the most part, that's where it's evaluated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

They land by saying our members will tell us when it's time. And the members, again, are professionals. They're all the people working in studios, on tours, Engineers, writers, producers, artists, singers, they're the professionals. And when they say, you know what, we're tired of genres or we're tired of separating people and putting them in boxes, then we'll evolve.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

They land by saying our members will tell us when it's time. And the members, again, are professionals. They're all the people working in studios, on tours, Engineers, writers, producers, artists, singers, they're the professionals. And when they say, you know what, we're tired of genres or we're tired of separating people and putting them in boxes, then we'll evolve.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

They land by saying our members will tell us when it's time. And the members, again, are professionals. They're all the people working in studios, on tours, Engineers, writers, producers, artists, singers, they're the professionals. And when they say, you know what, we're tired of genres or we're tired of separating people and putting them in boxes, then we'll evolve.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can promise you that because our organization has never moved faster, has never been more fluid. We've never listened closer to our members or our music community. So when that starts to happen, we will make sure that things adjust.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can promise you that because our organization has never moved faster, has never been more fluid. We've never listened closer to our members or our music community. So when that starts to happen, we will make sure that things adjust.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

I can promise you that because our organization has never moved faster, has never been more fluid. We've never listened closer to our members or our music community. So when that starts to happen, we will make sure that things adjust.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Yes, and – What tends to need to happen is, again, the voters need to have an expertise in the genre. So if we had enough voters that knew exactly what was going on in the drill genre of music, then they would pop up and say, guys, we're missing a whole group of music here. We need to honor it. We would create the category. We'd go up in the next show and they would then vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Yes, and – What tends to need to happen is, again, the voters need to have an expertise in the genre. So if we had enough voters that knew exactly what was going on in the drill genre of music, then they would pop up and say, guys, we're missing a whole group of music here. We need to honor it. We would create the category. We'd go up in the next show and they would then vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Yes, and – What tends to need to happen is, again, the voters need to have an expertise in the genre. So if we had enough voters that knew exactly what was going on in the drill genre of music, then they would pop up and say, guys, we're missing a whole group of music here. We need to honor it. We would create the category. We'd go up in the next show and they would then vote.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

But without that movement, without the momentum behind the genre that's sustainable, that translates into members, we would be popping new genres into the show without the support and kind of the underpinning that it needs to be relevant and to be accurate. Because if we put a drill category in now and we didn't have enough voters and we had the wrong outcomes because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

But without that movement, without the momentum behind the genre that's sustainable, that translates into members, we would be popping new genres into the show without the support and kind of the underpinning that it needs to be relevant and to be accurate. Because if we put a drill category in now and we didn't have enough voters and we had the wrong outcomes because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

But without that movement, without the momentum behind the genre that's sustainable, that translates into members, we would be popping new genres into the show without the support and kind of the underpinning that it needs to be relevant and to be accurate. Because if we put a drill category in now and we didn't have enough voters and we had the wrong outcomes because...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Just some random people started voting. Oh, I know this name. Let me vote for them. It would be disrespectful to the creators in that genre. It would also be, I think, detrimental to the brand of the Academy and the Grammys. So when the time is right for those new genres, I like to think that they'll be there. We just added the best African performance.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Just some random people started voting. Oh, I know this name. Let me vote for them. It would be disrespectful to the creators in that genre. It would also be, I think, detrimental to the brand of the Academy and the Grammys. So when the time is right for those new genres, I like to think that they'll be there. We just added the best African performance.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

Just some random people started voting. Oh, I know this name. Let me vote for them. It would be disrespectful to the creators in that genre. It would also be, I think, detrimental to the brand of the Academy and the Grammys. So when the time is right for those new genres, I like to think that they'll be there. We just added the best African performance.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

You see the rise of piano and all the different genres, Afrobeats. And we had the voters. We had the support. They proposed the award. It's now in.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

You see the rise of piano and all the different genres, Afrobeats. And we had the voters. We had the support. They proposed the award. It's now in.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

You see the rise of piano and all the different genres, Afrobeats. And we had the voters. We had the support. They proposed the award. It's now in.