Haseeb Qureshi

And that's the sense in which I say crypto was designed for AIs.

We're now trying to backport

this ai first technology into becoming something civilized enough that humans can use it which means oh it's the privy model it's oh your money sitting in binance or coinbase it's extremely easy we remove the foot guns you know we have 2fa we have all this stuff that makes it easier and easier for you not to lose your shirt or make a mistake or get hacked but in principle you know in the agent or if you're on a computer you already know how to manage secrets

I mean, how do you think you use an API?

Every API that you've ever used has some kind of API secret, some kind of API key that a model's whole job is to safeguard as best as it possibly can.

So this idea that like, well, you know, human beings, we obviously screw up all the time.

It's not safe for us to hold on to money.

An AI agent knows how to manage secrets.

You know, that's how it has its anthropic key, right?

If that wasn't true, it would leak its anthropic key and then, you know, boom, you'd have all your credits drained, which, you know, is happening sometimes, but usually not because you're leaking the key.

So all that is to say, I think the answer is actually that crypto doesn't need to move very far for it to be in the right form factor for an AI to use it.

The difference, the difference is that right now, the problem is that AI agents have not been trained to use crypto.

Right.

They've all this RL, all the training that we've been doing inside these big labs is all around coding and mathematics.

And then, of course, just general, you know, be a nice agent, you know, to give me some therapy, answer questions about medicine, whatever, this kind of stuff.

This is what people have been reinforced with learning, training these models on.

It was just last week that you saw at OpenAI the release of EVM Bench.

which is a EVM-based cybersecurity benchmark that kind of shows that all of a sudden, hey, looks like they're starting to train on this stuff.

It looks like they're starting to actually do some reinforcement learning to allow these things to operate in a blockchain environment, right now EVM-based.

And the same thing was true at Anthropic.