Hayden Field

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The Vergecast · The US is losing its lead in AI · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

But at the end of the day, you must let us do our thing and kind of just

turn away until we're done because that's the only way we're gonna win.

And that is something the government seems to really believe and will let happen.

I think they're feeling both for sure, because, I mean, they're incredibly terrified of China winning.

You know, this is why they're constantly researching which labs are distilling them, you know, putting out reports, writing open letters to the government saying, please help us because we have proof of this and that.

So, yeah, I mean, they're terrified.

And that's why some of these employees are leaving these labs and writing reports.

also big manifestos about it.

They're all terrified of China winning.

And I think they also just realize how easy it would be and how close China is to potentially overtaking us because of, yeah, I mean, not only the distillation stuff, but also the fact that

China has figured out how to train models more efficiently and cheaper.

And yes, part of that is distillation, but also part of it can't be explained by that.

So, you know, there's a lot of open questions here.

And I think the kind of government narrative of we can't let China beat us do it

anything you can at all costs to prevent this is seeping into everything too.

So yeah, I mean, they're definitely thinking about going public and trying to shore themselves up for the best possible look for their investors and stuff.

But they also have this, I think, deep-seated fear of China and the unknown.

Yes, that's actually something I was going to bring up, the open source AI thing.

Because, yeah, I mean, it feels like AI labs are kind of protecting their house of cards right now.

I've talked to a lot of clients and customers of these labs that are constantly upset about the AI money squeeze, you know, the costs being passed on to them.

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