Hazel Sills

We're in this moment where women are more choosier about their partners and are sort of becoming radicalized to what a healthy relationship looks like.

It feels like a moment in pop music where women have really internalized

all of this rhetoric and conversation about what gender roles should be in a heterosexual relationship and what labor should be emotional or otherwise.

And yeah, it's making its way up the charts.

It's like in our pop hits.

Yeah, it's like who doesn't love

You know, a great song about how boys are trash.

Like, it's a classic.

But I think a lot of these women, they're almost writing like mini think pieces in a way in these songs.

Like, I just I think that they are very aware of the online discourse.

You know, Sabrina Carpenter is very savvy at this as well, where it's like if we're talking about, you know, this kind of trend online and in culture are, you know, complaining about how their boyfriend is so annoying, then it is in their best interest, right, to record a song, you know, that women can then, you know, pick up kind of like as their own anthem and like overlay it on their TikTok videos.

Right.

Yeah.

I do think these women are, you know, writing from their own experiences and they're having fun with it.

But I do think that there is, you know, a benefit to kind of like cashing in on this trend.

Like it's like it feels like a response to what women are talking about and what they care about right now.

Coming up.

To me, it really does feel like a turning point in this trend and into a like, well, here is what I need.

More with Hazel after the break.

Yeah, I think, like, you know, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo, they're sort of operating from the stance of, like, boys can kick rocks.