Heath Druzin
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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So I'll tell you straight up, as a Jewish American, I hear that, that I can't run for office. Other non-Christians can't. And I have to admit, it's a little terrifying to me because to me, that means a fundamental freedom of mine in this theoretical world is gone.
But where I can run for office right now.
So Gabe wants biblical law to apply to everyone. That means a lot less democracy, especially for non-Christians like me. I should probably pause a moment here to acknowledge the bizarre journey I've been on for the past year. I've mentioned before that I'm Jewish, and it has been surreal to be immersed in this world of Christian nationalism.
Don't get me wrong, people like Gabe have been unfailingly polite, which frankly makes it weirder. I'm being politely told I don't deserve key rights. But the reason I'm here listening to Gabe explain why I should lose my rights is not to feel uncomfortable. It's because plenty of people agree with him.
Gabe is part of a younger vanguard of Christian nationalists trying to make their vision a reality. And they're spreading their word through popular streaming shows, including Gabe's creation, CrossPolitik.
I mean, CrossPolitik is a mashup of fundamentalist religion, politics, and drinking.
These aren't the megachurch pastors of yore with their faith healing and fire and brimstone. Those guys focused on arena-sized church crowds. Gabe and his allies use popular streaming shows and savvy social media. They have followers around the country. They write books extolling the patriarchy and want their followers to get political and get more Christ into government.
Gabe and his Christian nationalist peers are a whiskey-drinking, cigar-smoking set that favor expensive boots and well-coiffed hair.
Kind of hipster theocrats with a distinctly bro motif. And business is good. A little cinnamon. These guys have popular books, a large podcast, and a YouTube channel with about 20,000 subscribers.
And each year, leading Christian nationalist thinkers, as well as rank-and-file believers, gather at a conference.
It's official. It's official. This is Gabe's creation. Fight, Laugh, Feast is four days of fundamentalist Christians talking to Christians about being Christian.
So Jimmy and I went. We flew across the country to where Gabe and his compatriots were brainstorming a Christian takeover of America. We're in the Northern Kentucky countryside.
The landscape is rolling and wooded with lots of farms and, of course, distilleries. But we're not here just as an excuse to go bourbon tasting. We're here to attend Fight Laugh Feast. The theme is the politics of the six days of creation. This, of course, is the granddaddy of Bible verses, Genesis 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
From there, each day God creates a new facet of the earth. And on the seventh day, he rests. And yeah, Christian nationalists definitely go with he.
That's Toby Sumter, a pastor and a Christchurch affiliate, and one of Gabe's co-hosts on the show CrossPolitik. If you're wondering about the dragons, it's Revelations 12.3. And unicorns are actually mentioned throughout the Bible. Fight, Laugh, Feast is billed as a conference, but it feels more like a festival. Or this year, even a political convention.
Because everyone we talk to here thinks America should be a Christian nation.
If you recognize that voice, it's Pastor Doug Wilson, who's a featured speaker here. Fundamentalist thinkers have come from around the country to be here. Nearly 1,500 people, according to co-founder Gabe Wrench. And that's despite a per-person ticket well north of $400. These Christian nationalists are here to put their heads together. They're planning how to take over America for Jesus.
And they have ambitious goals. This is Pastor Toby Sumter again in a speech at the conference.
We talked to a lot of people at the conference. They didn't pull any punches about who would be in charge in a Christian America. Christians, of course. When you talk to them, though, they're often polite, funny, and lighthearted about some heavy subjects. Gabe has a pithy term for this approach that he emphasizes in his speeches.
Jolly as they may be, warriors are at war. And in a war, there is always an enemy. What I started to realize was to them, that enemy was me. Here's Gabe.
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