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that would move everything forward. Well, of course, what happened was that even people like, who were part of the Republican Party, by the way, the Democrats recognized that this was a problem. And one of the people who really spoke up about this was Grover Cleveland.
that would move everything forward. Well, of course, what happened was that even people like, who were part of the Republican Party, by the way, the Democrats recognized that this was a problem. And one of the people who really spoke up about this was Grover Cleveland.
that would move everything forward. Well, of course, what happened was that even people like, who were part of the Republican Party, by the way, the Democrats recognized that this was a problem. And one of the people who really spoke up about this was Grover Cleveland.
And it's interesting that he's been completely written out of our history books for the most part, because he kept saying, this is not a democracy when a few rich guys buy it all. And the Republicans come down on him again and again saying, well, you're an anarchist, you're a communist, you're trying to destroy this wonderful American system.
And it's interesting that he's been completely written out of our history books for the most part, because he kept saying, this is not a democracy when a few rich guys buy it all. And the Republicans come down on him again and again saying, well, you're an anarchist, you're a communist, you're trying to destroy this wonderful American system.
And it's interesting that he's been completely written out of our history books for the most part, because he kept saying, this is not a democracy when a few rich guys buy it all. And the Republicans come down on him again and again saying, well, you're an anarchist, you're a communist, you're trying to destroy this wonderful American system.
And one of the people who listens to him, although does not leave the Republican Party, is Theodore Roosevelt and Henry Cabot Lodge as well, who's a senior partner in that relationship early on. And they look at this and they're like, we cannot have a democracy when you have literally children who have no education, who are working and living in the streets and so on.
And one of the people who listens to him, although does not leave the Republican Party, is Theodore Roosevelt and Henry Cabot Lodge as well, who's a senior partner in that relationship early on. And they look at this and they're like, we cannot have a democracy when you have literally children who have no education, who are working and living in the streets and so on.
And one of the people who listens to him, although does not leave the Republican Party, is Theodore Roosevelt and Henry Cabot Lodge as well, who's a senior partner in that relationship early on. And they look at this and they're like, we cannot have a democracy when you have literally children who have no education, who are working and living in the streets and so on.
And they pick up that critique of industrial capitalism and its marriage to government, and they create the progressive era. And William McKinley, when he is elected in 96, is elected as this reaction to Grover Cleveland. And with the idea that he's gonna bring this government to fruition, of big business and the lawmakers.
And they pick up that critique of industrial capitalism and its marriage to government, and they create the progressive era. And William McKinley, when he is elected in 96, is elected as this reaction to Grover Cleveland. And with the idea that he's gonna bring this government to fruition, of big business and the lawmakers.
And they pick up that critique of industrial capitalism and its marriage to government, and they create the progressive era. And William McKinley, when he is elected in 96, is elected as this reaction to Grover Cleveland. And with the idea that he's gonna bring this government to fruition, of big business and the lawmakers.
And of course, there is a, let's just call it a pushback to that in the form of glass worker slash steel worker who has been blacklisted for his work with the union, a guy named Leon Chalgos. And when that backlash happens, Theodore Roosevelt becomes president, we get the progressive era.
And of course, there is a, let's just call it a pushback to that in the form of glass worker slash steel worker who has been blacklisted for his work with the union, a guy named Leon Chalgos. And when that backlash happens, Theodore Roosevelt becomes president, we get the progressive era.
And of course, there is a, let's just call it a pushback to that in the form of glass worker slash steel worker who has been blacklisted for his work with the union, a guy named Leon Chalgos. And when that backlash happens, Theodore Roosevelt becomes president, we get the progressive era.
So it's funny because everybody who studies Grover Cleveland falls in love with him. And somebody said, and I did the same. I read about it in one of my books. And somebody said, why don't you write a book? Why don't you write a biography of him? And I said, because there's three on the market from the other three people who have studied him. And I would be the fourth.
So it's funny because everybody who studies Grover Cleveland falls in love with him. And somebody said, and I did the same. I read about it in one of my books. And somebody said, why don't you write a book? Why don't you write a biography of him? And I said, because there's three on the market from the other three people who have studied him. And I would be the fourth.
So it's funny because everybody who studies Grover Cleveland falls in love with him. And somebody said, and I did the same. I read about it in one of my books. And somebody said, why don't you write a book? Why don't you write a biography of him? And I said, because there's three on the market from the other three people who have studied him. And I would be the fourth.
And there's only four readers for those three books or those four books. So Cleveland is, and I'm making fun, but like I say, I've written about him a lot. He desegregated the New York City police force. He, I mean, there's a number of things he did that,
And there's only four readers for those three books or those four books. So Cleveland is, and I'm making fun, but like I say, I've written about him a lot. He desegregated the New York City police force. He, I mean, there's a number of things he did that,