Heather Dubrow
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Gretchen and Slade did say it.
So that's where she's at right now.
So now back at the bar, Jen's like, okay, let's talk about this Katie thing.
You know, I want to support Katie, but I mean, what the hell is going on?
I was going to say FaceTime, but am I really ready for a FaceTime?
I don't know if I'm really ready for that.
I mean, she'll just lie anyway.
She's just going to lie.
So it's really highlighting the producer's shadiness in all of this, too.
So the producer is like, okay, well, just tell me what really happened.
Let's go there.
She goes, okay.
All right, gather around, everybody.
Here's another version of the truth by Katie.
After Matt spoke to me when this info about Kiki came out, Slade called Matt and said, tell Katie to say that Gretchen never said it.
And I have to hold the line and protect Gretchen.
So if Kiki's claiming that I knew this story from Gretchen, the only time I've hung out with Gretchen was with Ryan and Jen.
So they would have heard it.
So why am I blamed for it?
Why isn't Jen in trouble for telling Kiki Monique is basically what she's saying, right?