Heather Gillers

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548 appearances 11 recordings 1 series first heard Nov 2018 last heard Oct 2021

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So oftentimes when you get a report on the value of a public pension's matched
Private equity holdings say what you're really seeing is the value of those holdings one quarter ago. matched
So some of those returns in the portfolio that are baked into that total return actually reflect previous quarters. matched
And we'll have to wait until next quarter to find out what happened this quarter. matched
That's right. matched
There are some very well-funded pension funds. matched
New York State is a good example. matched
But there are also some very poorly funded pension funds. matched
Illinois, New Jersey, Kentucky. matched
California has probably around 70% of the assets it needs to pay future benefits even before this pandemic. matched
So these funds have been struggling for years to make up these deep funding holes. matched
And in an effort to do so, they've taken on more risk and tried to meet very aggressive investment targets. matched
And this past quarter was a real blow to them because when you set your expectations that high, anytime the markets disappoint you, matched
The impact is going to be big. matched
These benefits, a lot of them were set a long time ago when market returns on stocks and bonds were much higher, particularly on bonds. matched
And it was possible to invest with fairly low risk. matched
and get fairly high returns. matched
And that has changed a lot. matched
But these are 30 year promises, and courts have protected them very rigorously and made it difficult to change these benefits. matched
So public pensions are now often stuck in a place where they have promised benefits, but their investments are not growing at a rate that would help them afford those benefits. matched
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