Henry Zeffman
speaker
1,893 appearances
15 recordings
1 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 13 Sep
Henry Zeffman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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to the massive frustration of lots of Labour MPs, including some who supported those welfare reforms.
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It was just, no, no, no, you need to vote for this because otherwise we'll have to put up taxes because i the money doesn't add up otherwise.
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What actually they started doing under Keir Starmer after that debacle, but have continued doing under Andy Burnham because he's reappointed the same work and pension secretary Pat McFadden is trying to make the argument from first principles.
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They believe that that means that when and it is a matter of when not if they ask Labour MPs again to vote to make at least some welfare payments less generous for some people.
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that Labour MPs and perhaps the public will feel more amenable to it.
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I think let's wait and see whether it turns out to actually be the case that they have built a durable consensus on that or whether actually it's just so politically painful to vote for welfare cuts for Labour MPs.
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I wonder I mean I'm just thinking out loud here, but I wonder if for a ban they would need le legislation and just to come back to it, Parliament is not sitting.
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Uh I mean they can ask retailers and perhaps they'll stop.
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to the point that actually a lot of Cobra meetings and Andy Burnham is far from the first Prime Minister to use it in this way, a lot of Cobra meetings are actually just a way of signalling to the public via us getting excited about Cobra meetings, not us specifically a newscast, journalists more generally
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I'm
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It's a way of signalling
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under this scheme.
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And essentially what Andy Burnham has therefore said is these two people are not going to be released.
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details to follow.
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And I don't mean that in a critical way.
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I think that's, you know
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Lots of people will be delighted.
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I mean, about 800,000 people had signed the petition calling for this to happen before loads of police chiefs as well?
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Right, absolutely.
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And uh so you can see why Andy Burnham felt swayed by public opinion.
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