Henry Zeffman

And many MPs are parents too.

And just as there appears to have been a shift over years, perhaps rather than months, among parents about the ills of social media for children rather than the benefits, I think the same thing has happened in Parliament because they're kind of downstream of that broader societal trend.

Thank you.

What would you take?

There's so much to choose from.

We are in the midst of a rupture.

That's because you smashed the newscast one.

Did you notice Adam's use of the passive there?

It tipped over.

I constantly tease my kids about this.

Yeah, exactly.

The active and the passive voice.

So that's a fascinating question.

Because it's not always the case that those who end up... If you rewind sort of ten years, even less than that, to the time when Rory Stewart was a government minister...

You know, here's a very kind of erudite, well-read, academic, well-travelled chap, but I'm not sure many people, perhaps even Rory himself, would have thought that the thing he would end up going on to do and be perhaps more well-known for than being a Secretary of State was being a podcaster.

So it's not always predictable, I don't think, who those people might be.

Although certainly in the political sphere, it usually involves you losing your job in politics first.

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But the brutal truth is, you know, for people in the political world, podcasting is the next best alternative, whereas we just do it for a day job anyway.

And you do wonder at what point, as joyous as it had been, and just to be momentarily serious, one of the highlights of my career is to do newscasts and the kind of relationship that we have with you guys as newscasters.