Henry Zeffman

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1,893 appearances 15 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 13 Sep

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Newscast · How Is Andy Burnham Preparing For Government? · 18 Jul 2026 podcast

But you can also see why they might think maybe coming in two years into a term just isn't the right time for it.

I think what's so interesting is we now have the case for both sides of it in recent political history.

For a decade between Gordon Brown bottling the 2007 election, and Andy Burnham of course was at that cabinet table, and Theresa May going for it in 2017,

Between that period, people used to say, well, it's a sign that if you're an incoming prime minister and you get ahead in the polls, of course you've got to go for a general election.

Then Theresa May showed that there are downsides to that as well, especially if you want to do something big on social care, in fact.

I think it's going to be a fascinating dilemma, which I'm sure is playing out in his head, yeah.

I thought it was bold.

Exactly, that was what struck me too, Laura, was the scale of the test that he set himself.

It wasn't just...

I'm going to turn things around and win the next general election.

That was kind of implied at various points.

It was, I'm going to end 40 years of neoliberalism.

I'm going to be the most significant change of prime minister, as you say, everything you just said.

Arguably the biggest task of the lot.

I'm going to end factionism in the Labour Party for good.

I mean, those are...

I actually don't think he could have set a bigger goal for himself.

Literally, I don't.

And that is a sign that he sees himself clearly as much more than just the latest in the sequence of prime ministers that we've had since Brexit.

Oh, that's another thing he said, by the way, he's going to end the post Brexit turbulence in British politics and improve politics.

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