Hester Grainger

But I was kind of away for sort of, you know, 10, 11, 12 days at a time.

And it just meant that actually I could concentrate on what I was doing.

So I loved it.

I had like the best time.

I met so many people.

And I got to speak about ADHD every night on stage.

So for me, there's nothing better.

Actually spotless.

Was it?

Yeah, completely.

He runs a military ship going on at home.

And yeah, I would say Kelly is a lot tidier than I am, but I don't like mess, but I kind of can't help it.

So he is, Kelly's autistic and ADHD and maybe that's why it's so immaculate because everything's got a place and he knows exactly what's happening.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, but Kelly was diagnosed in his 40s as autistic ADHD, so he's all ADHD and then I'm ADHD, I was diagnosed in my 40s and then we've got two teenagers who are now 14 and 16.

So truly neurodivergent house, which obviously can be interesting.

Yeah, because I think there's so much, like I'm an ADHD coach and I just hear this a lot from my clients saying,

Like my house is a mess.

And then obviously, if you've got a messy house, it's a messy brain, which then impacts work or your family and just kind of feeling that you can't settle when you're at home if your house is a mess.

So actually, as you said, with the five that don't work and kind of why?