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5 Cleaning Rules That DESTROY ADHD Brains (and 10 that actually help you declutter)
13 Apr 2026
Chapter 1: What are the five cleaning rules that don't work for ADHD brains?
If you're ADHD, your executive function level is about a 30% deficit age-wise from a neurotypical brain. A 20-year-old, their executive function skills might be 30% to 40% their age younger. So you're actually dealing with like a kind of 12-year-old, which is why you might have teenagers and you're thinking, why is this not working? You don't grow out of your executive function difficulties.
I think you just find ways to manage it.
Hester Granger is the ultimate ADHD coach and viral sensation spreading her ADHD message to millions online as an ADHD advocate and renowned public speaker she is an expert in all things ADHD our ADHD brains don't have enough dopamine cleaning and sorting and life admin is really really boring so we can think of a hundred things as much more fun the idea of little and often or doing a little bit every day is wonderful in principle but I do think that there are better ways
Chapter 2: How can doing a little every day be ineffective for ADHD?
Can that trigger like a shame response because you've kind of like not fulfilled a promise to yourself?
I think there's two things there. You've got the shame of not actually doing it, but also the shame of...
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Chapter 3: What is body doubling and how does it help with cleaning?
You can find a link to the tickets in the description. I can't wait to meet you in person. Hester, welcome back.
Thank you.
Chapter 4: Why is out of sight storage a challenge for ADHD individuals?
Thank you for having me.
You've been very busy since you were last here.
Yes, yeah. I think it's been a couple of years now, and I was on tour last year, so I did 27 dates in theatres with a show called ADHD Unmasked, and then I'm going to go on tour later again this year with a show called ADHD Unfiltered. It's been busy, but it's good to be back.
That's good. How do you manage the complexities, the stress of touring? Was that quite a lot?
Do you know what? It was a lot. But equally, I've got an amazing husband, Kelly. He was at home sorting the kids out, sorting all the pets out. So actually, I feel slightly spoiled that I was just away. I could just concentrate on the show. Obviously, I went home, etc. But I was kind of away for sort of, you know, 10, 11, 12 days at a time.
And it just meant that actually I could concentrate on what I was doing. So I loved it. I had like the best time. I met so many people. And I got to speak about ADHD every night on stage.
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Chapter 5: What are the downsides of deep cleaning marathons for ADHD brains?
So for me, there's nothing better.
Sounds brilliant. And what was the state of the house like when you got back?
Actually spotless. Was it? Yeah, completely. He runs a military ship going on at home. And yeah, I would say Kelly is a lot tidier than I am, but I don't like mess, but I kind of can't help it.
Kelly is your husband and is he neurotypical?
So he is, Kelly's autistic and ADHD and maybe that's why it's so immaculate because everything's got a place and he knows exactly what's happening.
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Chapter 6: How do rigid daily cleaning schedules impact ADHD management?
His own ying to his own yang.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but Kelly was diagnosed in his 40s as autistic ADHD, so he's all ADHD and then I'm ADHD, I was diagnosed in my 40s and then we've got two teenagers who are now 14 and 16.
Chapter 7: What are some practical tips for decluttering effectively?
So truly neurodivergent house, which obviously can be interesting.
Chapter 8: What final advice does the guest offer for managing ADHD and cleaning?
Yeah.
And that's what we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk about five cleaning hacks that don't work for neurodivergent brains, but then also the really helpful part is like, what does work?
Yeah, because I think there's so much, like I'm an ADHD coach and I just hear this a lot from my clients saying, Like my house is a mess. And then obviously, if you've got a messy house, it's a messy brain, which then impacts work or your family and just kind of feeling that you can't settle when you're at home if your house is a mess.
So actually, as you said, with the five that don't work and kind of why? Because I think there can be this perception that you might watch some, you know... TikTokers going, oh, this is how you clean your house, clean influencers, which you are amazing. But then you sort of think, well, why is that not working for me? Why can't I do that?
And if you've got a ADHD brain like me, there are reasons why.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of the neurotypical advice assumes that you have some kind of manager going on in your head and not just five raccoons with a whiteboard.
Yes, this is it. If the raccoons have remembered the pen off the whiteboard because they may not have done or one of the raccoons broke the whiteboard. But yeah, I think this is it. And that's the point I think is really important is for people to not feel bad and wonder, well, why is my house a bit of a mess or why can't I keep on top of things?
And I always say that actually, I think, you know, having ADHD, I find it really hard to be an adult. Like I'm 48 now and I just still find adulting really difficult. I have to do it and my husband has to do it. And, you know, we run our business, Perfectly Autistic, so we're really busy. And then we've got the teenagers as well who want to live in a nice, clean house.
If you go into my daughter's bedroom, it is spotless. She's autistic ADHD as well, and it is spotless. And I think that's quite unusual with teenagers. So I feel quite blessed. But yeah, I think it's just not having that shame that can be involved sometimes with your home.
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