Hitmaka

And then deeper than that, for me, it's just more so, like, we didn't have a way out.

People, like, I'm older now, so I'm about to be 40.

So everybody else, like, the younger guys, they don't see it like that because it's the Chief Keeves, the Lil Durks, the G Herbos, whatever.

But when I was coming out, it was literally Common, Twista, Do or Die.

Psycho drama, Crucial Conflict, and Kanye.

That was it.

So it was like, you didn't have an opportunity to be like, man, like, if I was in New York, I would sit outside the Def Jam building 24-7 and wait for Jay-Z to come out and rap for him and shit like that.

Like, that ain't really the opportunity.

So I just think the music, it's a real musical city, though.

I mean, I'm going to be honest, like, my next door neighbor, like, for a while was Buddy Guy, you know?

Really?

Yeah.

Okay, cool.

So like the music is in the city and it's just on us.

Like it's a real soulful town.

So I think that that's where it really come from.

What do you think has been the key to your longevity?

The work.

Like, I love the work, bro.

Like, I don't like to do nothing.