Holly Buckley
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187 appearances
9 recordings
1 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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Oh, uh, it's funny. Cause I think that the two things that first, uh, came to mind are probably not very profound or helpful to, uh, a broader audience, but I will share them nonetheless, just because they're the first thing that came to mind and you took me by surprise with the topic. But I think maybe there's a broader lesson that can be pulled out of them.
So the first was when I was in law school and I was looking for work after law school. And I'm a first generation lawyer in my family. And I didn't really even know what a law firm was. When I went to law school, I kind of knew I was doing healthcare transactions and didn't really know the venues to do that.
And there was a particular professor that had a pretty defined view of what a big firm lawyer looked like. And he told me that he did not think that I was big law firm material and that maybe I should seek a job in government, which is obviously a great place to work also and has a lot of opportunities.
He judged me based on his perception of what he felt big law was and what government was and what he thought I was capable of or fit for. And it was a surprise to me that he would have made that pronouncement. And he apparently was wrong because I'm pretty, pretty far in on big law and have done relatively well for myself. And I think
Maybe the lesson from that is don't let others project onto you their impressions and go with your own gut and make your own decisions and freely try to decide the advice of people.
Sure. I don't think the advice was meant in a good way. And I was taken aback and it was fuel for the fire. In hindsight, I think the advice was given based on this person's perception of what a really good big law junior associate looked like. And I don't know that that was necessarily me. And I did do relatively well as a junior associate.
I think he perceived that I was not someone who would kind of quickly fall in line, put my head down and just do exactly what I was told. And he, there was a certain kind of group of associates or of law students that this particular person would tend to support more. And they tended to be people who are much kind of quieter and fall in line.
And I didn't really fit the mold that he thought you needed to be successful. Now, I think that the world has changed a lot. And I think we now expect more junior folks to be bigger thinkers and to push us as more senior people. And so I think his view was maybe a little antiquated. I don't think it was ill-intentioned when he said it.
I think it was his genuine belief that I wouldn't necessarily do well.
I think the other piece of horrible advice that I hear really – somewhat frequently, both directly and indirectly for more junior people is around women and their dress codes and different more senior women's perception of how more junior women should dress in the workplace. And I think these comments in general are very misguided. And I think are generally poorly received.
So there's one particular line of this around how more junior women should have some very expensive pieces in their closet, a very expensive suit, say an Armani suit, very expensive shoes, and the message that that sends. And I think those, I mean, this is a totally different topic than kind of the first one, but it was, again, the second thing that came to mind
And every time I hear these comments, I'm always just shocked that someone would make them. And there is not a scenario where they have been well-received. And so I think in general, women need to probably let other women be and less us.
And in general, remember that people come from different levels of wealth and recommending people buy Armani suits and very expensive shoes may not resonate too well with others.
Thank you, Scott. And massive congratulations to you and Chanel. That is just tremendous. And thanks for the words for having me on.
Yeah, happy to do so. And it was a really fun, energizing few days. There's a lot of content there and still processing some of it. I had the privilege of interviewing Lance Armstrong, which was really fun. And he was a very interesting guy and had the entire room very much captivated.
But in terms of the actual substance around healthcare, private equity, and investing and lending, a few core thoughts. I'd say... In terms of the overall market outlook, I would frame it as cautious optimism amid regulatory and economic headwinds.
And so I would say the investors that we had speaking and just in informal discussions with folks, we talked about optimism of increased deal flow coming up, but in certain sectors, not across the board. So sectors such as health tech, IT infrastructure, pharma services,
And even Medicaid-heavy areas, there was a fair amount of optimism, notwithstanding a fair amount of what's going on on the national landscape from a macroeconomic perspective, as well as a policy perspective, and then from a state law perspective. There's really been a strategic shift from traditional provider services to more diversified investments.
And there's a real focus on things like patient outcomes, access to care, and I mean, these have always been important themes, but the investment VCs are very much focused on tapping into those themes from an IT perspective, AI perspective, and how do we really solve problems in light of the fact that generalized growth is somewhat harder to come by.
I think from a lending perspective, similar to the investment side, there's anticipated to be an uptick in deal volume the second half of the year. The first half of the year has been slower, but really competitive pricing and aggressive terms are becoming more prevalent, especially in the middle market. And the availability of capital is high, which intensifies competition for quality deals.
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