Holly Wainwright

The idea is to let them cry because, A, they need to get through that to get to the next bit and also because it's quite good content sometimes.

But at the same time, I think it's situation dependent because if someone's genuinely very upset, then you need to comfort them.

You need to be a human being and comfort them.

Do you have to hug them?

But if you know that some people are just criers, I think that's one of the skills in being a manager is you can't actually treat everybody the same.

Like if somebody cried in your office who you knew was not a crier and you knew something must be wrong, presumably then you would like inquire.

Those are the worst those are the worst ones as a manager to deal with is if you're just saying no you can't have leave then because everyone's having leave then and someone starts crying.

You're

Then you just laugh, for God's sake.

Sorry.

But please.

Welcome to being a grown-up in the world.

And I would rather die than let people see me cry.

I'm that person because I'm stoic and I'm old.

But I have done it, of course.

At my man?

Oh, yeah.

I definitely have done it.

Whereas I know some people who are much more evolved than I am and they're, like, fine with crying, but I hate it.

So I, early in my career, literally researched how to not cry when you want to cry.